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Daniel Chieh's avatar

1) Quite good in its central purpose, to dismiss the idea that Earth is being limited by the usual culprits of energy use, such a fossil fuels, etc. From the physics and thus indeed from the excellent position of first principles, we can see that this is not the case.

2) Would like to see qualification in regards to resources which can be lost forever, at least given our current level of technology. For example, gasses lost into space.

3) Furthermore, would like to see discussion on resources converted into less useful forms and cost of reversal(the usual argument against recycling is that the cost is high).

4) Considerations of ever-increasing demands by population as the minimal acceptable level of living standard. For example, your average farmer in the 1700s consumed less energy than your average toddler per year if we consider the cost of plastic toys and light bulbs. Couldn't we continue to see this increase in energy consumption per individual, or have we maxxed out? Furthermore, some people are only satisfied via inequality, so for individuals who desire to be masters, they require others to have less and this is not possible due to universal wealth, this unfufilled desired for inequality will add to stress.

5) Addendum to 4, borrowing in part from Karlin's book review of the Coming Collapse of Complex Societies. There appears to be a mutation in societies(and I would argue, in nature) for every increasing complexity, including much useless complexity. Where this complexity introduces additional costs, it may lead to increased inefficiencies in energy to purpose.

6) And of course, this level of increased inefficiency is found not, per se in the physical limits of say, solar energy but in the transformational technology needed. The Sun produces so much energy, but there are only so many solar panels for it. As with clean water and hypersonic missiles, we see the limiting factor is can be increasingly high cost of conversion due to societal dysfunction plus "complexity cost" including bureaucratic laws such as "work expands to fill all available time/budget."

7)Seven is a holy number. Increasing use of transformational technology to human use may create vast negative externalities beyond our envisioned coping mechanisms and limited by our cognitive hardware. Pollution is the obvious culprit here, but we can also consider various other runaway mechanisms including those in Hungry Brain(optimization for selling food), disruption of sleep patterns, etc. An increasingly depressed society, for example, requires an increasing amount of painkillers, liquor and drugs(including virtual ones like vidya games) to sustain.

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Autisticus Spasticus's avatar

Factory farming practices are indescribably bad with 8 billion mouths to feed, and you're talking about quintillions? Fuck me, these technocrats are insatiable.

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